71 Lincoln 460 questions

I have a 71 Lincoln 460 that I am going to put in my 79 Ford F150 4X4, AS MOST of yall know.

I got a question about the engine though while I have it sitting out.
I am planning to order from SummitRacing.
Does all 460 parts fit every 460 motor even though the part on the site says for a vin a, etc?

1) What kind of cam should I put in it? Do I have to get the cam and lifter kit?
2) What kind of headers should I put on the thing?
3) What oil pump?

I don't know much about the engine and I don't know if they have done to anything to it.

Thanks.

i built a 79 bronco a few years back that made great power with a few simply changes.. it does matter what vin you use cause of the heads, intake setup.. they came in the lincoln cars as well as many trucks.. figure out where your motor came from by checking the numbers on the block.. since you dont know the history of the motor i would suggest taking it apart, checking the bore with a dial guage to make sure they are still in spec, check the rings, bearing races, and all that other fun stuff.. aint nothing worse then putting a motor in just to find out it has a spun bearing...

as far as a cam i had a mild cam and lifter setup from summit in mine, long tube headers since you dont have to worry about ground clearance, and any high output oil pump would be great.. i also suggest getting an oil cooler cause these motors like to toast oil.. transcooler as well cause any type of power to those trannys and they like to burn up as well... least from my experiance.. then again i would put it in 4wd and mash the pedal in a feild just cause i could do cyclone donuts.. lol

sounds like a fun project good luck and post some pics

Ok, thanks for the tip. Now I got to find me a dial gauge. I probably will start taking it apart soon.

Bought these 460 motor mounts..think they will work?

Well not being a big ford guy or anything but they look like motor mounts to me!! And I agree with what joe said a high volume oil pump will keep you motor nice and lubed however if your taking the motor down to the bare block I'd change the rings and the bearings... Now is this truck gonna be a off road truck or what excatly is it's purpose gonna be? I haven't been following here... However look into comp cams they have an Extreme 4x4 cam built just for mud trucks! And I also upgrade your intake and your distributor the oil cooler would be a worth while investment and I'm not sure if those motors have angle plugs of not but you have to be careful with full length tube headers because some will not work with angle plugs and vise versa...

Well it will be my daily driver a little but then a bog truck when I want to bog or play around (plus I might tow my tractor).

Ok, I've been taking apart the engine but I stopped due to I don't know what to do next. I guess I have to take the timing cover on the front of the engine off to get to the camshaft?

Here is what I did from the beginning to the end for today:

Sludgy oil..needs to be cleaned out-any ideas what I should use to clean these lifters?



start taking the carb off but accidently broke a linkage on it...



guess this is for the gas..



Found these serial numbers on the intake area..they are D5VE-9425-A3E. What does this mean?


Unhooked the fuel filter to the carb as well.


Took the water inlet piece off and look down in the hole (HAD TO TAKE THE DISTRIBUTOR OUT TOO!)



Took whatever this is off because it was blocking me to get a bolt (what is it?



Pulled off the intake piece (guess this is burnt oil in the first picture)




Now this is where I am at.........NOW WHAT DO I DO NEXT?!?!

take off your rockers but keep them in order on what side they go and where.. same goes for the rods.. cardboard, sharpy and a old bakin pan works well for that.. poke holes for the rods in the cardboard and hang the rockers on them.. then take your head bolts out, and pull the heads.. find a machine shop that has a hot tank and take the block, heads, and intake to them and have them soak it.. then check everything with a dial guage and see if its in spec or if its been worked at all.. your gonna wanna get a new main bearing set and a ring set but if you dont know what your doing really then you should have a shop or a freind take care of putting them in..

as far as the mounts go you have to figure out if they will work for you.. they make a swap kit spacifically for that application.. it comes with mounts, headers, and a few other varios things i think.. i did mine before the swap became popular and i peiced everything together and had custom headers made.

i would sugest a new carb and edelbrock intake. also if funds arent a problem get a mild came and lifter setup.. it took me 6 months and about 6k to totally redo me bronco but i had an unlimited budget and alot of helping hands at the time. my bronco was also a rust bucket from the start and i did a frame up restomod.. 35s, 6/4 lift, and alot of custom work.. i wish i had pics but it was so long ago and i was only 16.. i used the excuss that i was doing it for my graduation project that was manditory in my school and my parents tapped into a lawsuit fund from when i was younger to pay for it.. it was definitly a fun truck in the end though..

oh yeah and to answer your other questions..

first off you need to get a new carb cause you snapped the primary pump rod on that one.. its a junk carb anyways so no big loss..

the tube you say is for gas is accually your egr system and you can get rid of that as well.. you can get rid of the plate that went under your carb also..

and the thing you dont know what it is is your throttle cable bracket.. clean that up and paint it or get a chrome one from summit..

And to answer another question that joe negleted is yes you do have to take the timing chain cover off to get to the camshaft... And you may have to pull the freeze plug out from the back of the block to tap the camshaft out... I would recommend the Edelbrock performer dual plane intake and yeah the carb spacer can be used as a decorative paper wieght. The EGR system can be used as scrap metal and when you take your push rods out make sure they are clear of any clogs they're hollow and allow oil to go through so make sure they're clear. I'm pretty sure the numbers on the intake are just casting numbers. Also once your heads are off give the valve springs a good tap with a hammer to make sure they are tight and there isn't any slop in them... Keep in mind that you may have stretch bolts holding your heads on so once they are broke loose they are no longer usable and will need to be replaced. Also when it comes to your piston they are removed from the bottom... the connecting rods will not fit thru the cylinders once the pistons are removed take them to a machine shop and have them test the rist pins make sure they are tight and replace if needed also be careful if your transporting the pistons they have little tabs on either side called skirts and if they're broken the piston needs to be replaced... also if the connecting rods are at the shop might as well have them trued so they are all balanced you may want to have your heads decked so you know you'll get a good seal with the HG and also so the heads aren't warped. As Joe mentioned if your not experienced with engine overhauls then you'll definetly want some help putting it back together. If you get the block dunked them pay the extra money to have the machine shop install new freeze plugs and they'll install your cam bearing too because a specail tool is needed... I could go on and on and on but I'll just answer your questions as they arise so good luck with your build and if you need a hand we're here for you man so have fun!!


P.S. A digital camera makes a great jorunal for helping with the reassembly! Your doing great so far!

lol.. why thank you mister wiseass.. lol.. i thought i covered just about everything but you wrote another book.. haha

hahahaha No problem!!! lol That was a good laugh! I needed it... I could've kept going but my fingers got tired!! lol

Jesus.


Makes me glad mine was a 32,000 mile Continental. ( I had a '70)



I could actually distinguish parts on it

I got the 4 bolts across and the both bolts on each side by the lifter off but the head wont come off! What am I doing wrong?

Well from experince even 4 cylinder motors have more them 4 head bolts... Are you sure they're not hiding on you??? If not heads are held on with extreme force... Try taking a rubber mallot or a wooden block and a standard hammer and in the intake side of the heds give a few good wacks... The head should cluck and break loose but won't fall comepletely off and that is when you pull it off by hand... heads have some small (the word escapes me now) but they're small pointing things kinda like in the bell housing off a trans... The keep the head from completely dislodging when the bolts are removed and judging from your pics the heads have never been removed so they've probably due to heating and cooling sealed themselves together... Once the head breaks free you'll have coolant down in the cyclinders and the oil jackets so don't worry when you see it but if your rebuilding this motor then you won't have to worry about it but a wet dry vac makes quick easy clean work of getting the coolant out if the motor isn't on a stand... Good luck man if that doesn't work maybe my pal here Joe has a few other pointers!! lol

yeah im gonna have to say there is way more then 4 bolts... there is somewhere along the lines of 16-20 on each side holding the head down.. they are between each rocker and they go along the whole exhuast side as well..

Yeah, I found them after I wrote that message about I couldn't find them. They were right under the rockers.


Got the head off and I now got to measure the bore.

Looks like the project is coming along nicely. Do you have any pictures of the 79'?

Good job man glad you got the head off... The next trickest part is gonna be getting the camshaft out... Good luck all you have to do is ask when you run into anymore problems as I'm sure you already know we can help you out! Yeah get some pics of that 79!!!

Well I took the other head off finally and found on the piston that it says 0.30.

So it's bored over .30. So what does that make it? Someone told me a 490. Idk.



I also started taking off the water pump but stuck on one bolt thats between all of the pulleys. So I'm going to have to pull the crank pully too.

ErwinRommel wrote:

Well I took the other head off finally and found on the piston that it says 0.30.

So it's bored over .30. So what does that make it? Someone told me a 490. Idk.



I also started taking off the water pump but stuck on one bolt thats between all of the pulleys. So I'm going to have to pull the crank pully too.

A .030 460 would be a 468.

ErwinRommel wrote:

Well I took the other head off finally and found on the piston that it says 0.30.

So it's bored over .30. So what does that make it? Someone told me a 490. Idk.

That would be my guess however a sure fire way to know for sure would be to get a caliper and find out what the bore size is and findout what the stock bore size is and then you'll know... I imagine your local Advance auto parts or Autozone would have a micrometer set you could rent... Now I've done alittle research and your stock bore should be 4.36" and your stock stroke should be 3.85" also your intake valves should measure 2.08" and your exhaust valve should measure 1.66" however if your looking for a decent power adder when rebuilding your motor get yourself a set of the police interceptor heads because the intake and exhaust valves measure 2.19/1.66" however if this catches your interest do alittle more research because the police interceptor heads where available from 73 to 74... I also found that in the pre 1973 460 stock HP was rated at 365 and after 1972 stock HP dropped to 208 to 275... So looks to me like you got yourself quite the little power house there... with a good rebuild and a few decent upgrades you should be in the 400+ HP range without a problem! The info I found in this post is courtesy of http://www.fordclassics.com/enginespecs.html


Hope this helps you a bit!

Well it's a 1975 460 engine I think.

Oh ok I just did my searching based off the post title and the info I've read thus far...

What do I need to put in the engine? I have taken it apart completely and have to carry it to get hot tanked.

I'm going to get stuff from Summit Racing due to the Bill Me Later deal.

What parts would yall recommend?