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 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project

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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 6:13 am

wow, thats a nice project mack, i always loved the old trucks, and i will be watching this thread for updates!
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 11:35 am

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Peter, Kenny, Weston, Mackie, Fordy, Whitey, Brocko, Freighty, Johnny, all of them are welcome here! Very Happy


wat bout Jimmy lol
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 12:02 pm

Tell Jimmy he is welcome too!
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 12:05 pm

why thanks guys but i already knew i was always welcome here.. lol
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 12:16 pm

merlin5577 wrote:
Tell Jimmy he is welcome too!

Jimmy is what the old timer's used to Call the GMC semi truck's . . .

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 12:29 pm

In2Trux wrote:


If your not completely loaded down, you really don't have to use every gear and all three ranges.


BS Sad If you ain't 2 stick'in all 6, 10,15 or 20 gears what was the point in buying a Mack ? Wink

the only Mack that was a pain to drive was the 2 stick 7 x 3 21spd-OD, but that Deep OD mode really flew, 7th = .76:1 3rd = .85:1.

.76 OD = 24% .85 OD = 15% 24+15 = 39% OD . . . 100 engine rpm = 139 drive line rpm.by 2250rpm them low geared rears where howling Shocked

2250rpm x .39 od = 877.5 rpm gain, 2250+877.5 = 3127.5Rpm them drive shaft's where spinning, sadly with 12.55 gears truck only hit 52mph !

It was a Mack Prime Mover 300ton pull tractor. It was powered by an END673 Rolling Eyes yup the old 673 non turbo when the motor finally puked, this crazy old man tugged the truck into his shop pulled out the END673 and replaced it with not a used not a rebuilt not a reman but a brand New Hot off the press NOS ENDT676, then he had the whole truck sand blasted n repainted No scratch

that was 10 years ago, truck is still around shiny as when she was new still towing. . .

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:06 pm

wats Internationals nick name then?
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:20 pm

Jared Olson for SO IL wrote:
wats Internationals nick name then?

Corn-Binder . . .

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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:34 pm

did u jus make that up? lol cuz i think ive heard that b4
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:41 pm

No sir . . .

International Harvester Corporation started out making feed harvesting machine's long before tractors n trucks . . .

This is where the nick name Corn-Binder came from, ever hear any body call a John Deere a "Popping Johnny" ?

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:43 pm

actually it wasnt the binder 1st Mike it was the reeper i know my IH history. We got 8 tractors in the shed and IH implements 2
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 1:49 pm

$/$-AMX wrote:
In2Trux wrote:


If your not completely loaded down, you really don't have to use every gear and all three ranges.


BS Sad If you ain't 2 stick'in all 6, 10,15 or 20 gears what was the point in buying a Mack ? Wink

the only Mack that was a pain to drive was the 2 stick 7 x 3 21spd-OD, but that Deep OD mode really flew, 7th = .76:1 3rd = .85:1.

.76 OD = 24% .85 OD = 15% 24+15 = 39% OD . . . 100 engine rpm = 139 drive line rpm.by 2250rpm them low geared rears where howling Shocked

2250rpm x .39 od = 877.5 rpm gain, 2250+877.5 = 3127.5Rpm them drive shaft's where spinning, sadly with 12.55 gears truck only hit 52mph !

It was a Mack Prime Mover 300ton pull tractor. It was powered by an END673 Rolling Eyes yup the old 673 non turbo when the motor finally puked, this crazy old man tugged the truck into his shop pulled out the END673 and replaced it with not a used not a rebuilt not a reman but a brand New Hot off the press NOS ENDT676, then he had the whole truck sand blasted n repainted No scratch

that was 10 years ago, truck is still around shiny as when she was new still towing. . .

Mike

Where in the heck are you getting all of these stats ???
You even know the ratios of every axle of every vehicle you own. Who does that?
Are you popping off every differential cover and counting teeth? or do you know of an online link you could share with us

What's the point in buying a Mack if you don't use every gear???
Those gears are there for pulling... If your empty. Why waste your time climbing through those gears if you don't need them all.
When your empty, sometimes you can get enough thrust from a gear to send you past the next gear.
This is why you see some of these young guys driving these trucks and you see the truck dive then buck. don't get me started on these new, young truck drivers
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 2:39 pm

Jared Olson for SO IL wrote:
actually it wasnt the binder 1st Mike it was the reeper i know my IH history. We got 8 tractors in the shed and IH implements 2

No you Dink ! not the machine . . .the nick name showed up around the time of the introduction of the Truck. . .

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 2:42 pm

Johnny Poppers. Binders were made b4 truck so how can they be at the sametime
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 2:45 pm

Jared Olson for SO IL wrote:
Johnny Poppers. Binders were made b4 truck so how can they be at the sametime

your confusing the "NICK NAME" with the actual Machine ! the nick was about the machine but it was about the truck's several decades later. . .

The Nick name the machine are only related by name alone . .. never mind ! some peoples KIDZ Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 2:46 pm

In2Trux wrote:
$/$-AMX wrote:
In2Trux wrote:


If your not completely loaded down, you really don't have to use every gear and all three ranges.


BS Sad If you ain't 2 stick'in all 6, 10,15 or 20 gears what was the point in buying a Mack ? Wink

the only Mack that was a pain to drive was the 2 stick 7 x 3 21spd-OD, but that Deep OD mode really flew, 7th = .76:1 3rd = .85:1.

.76 OD = 24% .85 OD = 15% 24+15 = 39% OD . . . 100 engine rpm = 139 drive line rpm.by 2250rpm them low geared rears where howling Shocked

2250rpm x .39 od = 877.5 rpm gain, 2250+877.5 = 3127.5Rpm them drive shaft's where spinning, sadly with 12.55 gears truck only hit 52mph !

It was a Mack Prime Mover 300ton pull tractor. It was powered by an END673 Rolling Eyes yup the old 673 non turbo when the motor finally puked, this crazy old man tugged the truck into his shop pulled out the END673 and replaced it with not a used not a rebuilt not a reman but a brand New Hot off the press NOS ENDT676, then he had the whole truck sand blasted n repainted No scratch

that was 10 years ago, truck is still around shiny as when she was new still towing. . .

Mike

Where in the heck are you getting all of these stats ???
You even know the ratios of every axle of every vehicle you own. Who does that?
Are you popping off every differential cover and counting teeth? or do you know of an online link you could share with us

What's the point in buying a Mack if you don't use every gear???
Those gears are there for pulling... If your empty. Why waste your time climbing through those gears if you don't need them all.
When your empty, sometimes you can get enough thrust from a gear to send you past the next gear.
This is why you see some of these young guys driving these trucks and you see the truck dive then buck. don't get me started on these new, young truck drivers


I like to know the unit i am operating Cool

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 3:04 pm

ok so your talkin bout the pick up?
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 3:40 pm

[quote="$/$-AMX"][quote="In2Trux"]
$/$-AMX wrote:
In2Trux wrote:


Where in the heck are you getting all of these stats ???
You even know the ratios of every axle of every vehicle you own. Who does that?
Are you popping off every differential cover and counting teeth? or do you know of an online link you could share with us

What's the point in buying a Mack if you don't use every gear???
Those gears are there for pulling... If your empty. Why waste your time climbing through those gears if you don't need them all.
When your empty, sometimes you can get enough thrust from a gear to send you past the next gear.
This is why you see some of these young guys driving these trucks and you see the truck dive then buck. don't get me started on these new, young truck drivers


I like to know the unit i am operating Cool

Mike

The largest B model Mack tranny I've ever heard of is the quad Plex TRQ 7220 = 18

Questions still out there bud.
I'd luv to know were you get your info
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 8th 2010, 4:49 pm

Hey, how about you FREAK OUT about what people call something a little more!





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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyJanuary 9th 2010, 10:15 am

[quote="In2Trux"][quote="$/$-AMX"]
In2Trux wrote:
$/$-AMX wrote:
In2Trux wrote:


Where in the heck are you getting all of these stats ???
You even know the ratios of every axle of every vehicle you own. Who does that?
Are you popping off every differential cover and counting teeth? or do you know of an online link you could share with us

What's the point in buying a Mack if you don't use every gear???
Those gears are there for pulling... If your empty. Why waste your time climbing through those gears if you don't need them all.
When your empty, sometimes you can get enough thrust from a gear to send you past the next gear.
This is why you see some of these young guys driving these trucks and you see the truck dive then buck. don't get me started on these new, young truck drivers


I like to know the unit i am operating Cool

Mike

The largest B model Mack tranny I've ever heard of is the quad Plex TRQ 7220 = 18

Questions still out there bud.
I'd luv to know were you get your info

the Quadraplex isn't 18 spd's its 20 spd's . . .T2050 = 5spd T2070 = 7spd 2180 = 18spd just a few examples . . .

5 x4 = 20 5x3= 15 5x2 =10 5 =1 = 6 <- how it was explained to me From Madison Mack sales INC.+ told by many who drove such trucks.
tho i haven't counted each shift i just drove the DM600 this fall it has a 2stick 6spd and by gosh there is 6 forward speed's 2 Reveres even Shocked . . .

the 7 x 3 wasn't a B truck to my recollection but here's how i figured it out:

Transmission ID:
7spd main box 3 spd splitter dash panel label listed "21spd compound shifting procedure" 1-7 low split 1-7 direct split 1-7 high split 7 x 3 = 21, 21SPD.

Rear end ID:
the ID tag on the diff listed 120K-LB axle rating with a 12.55:1 gear ratio.

My Mack listed : i have/had sticker on dash showing all 5 spots for the main gear and secondary sticker showing 3 spots for the auxy, the Rear ends have ID tag's listing them as 65K-lb axles with raito: 6.38.

If the Vehicle in question dose NOT list the data i join some site and with some photos n IDing n factory spec lists come up with what options i have.

and Yes on some rear ends you have jack it up and spin some wheel's or yank some diff covers and do some Mathematics.

Gear oil's should be changed about once a year, if you'll notice EVERY Differential out there has a recommend service interval, that nobody follows. . .

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyDecember 20th 2010, 9:44 pm

Any progress on this thing over the past year? I found some inspirational pictures......well for me anyways lol:

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PostSubject: Re: 1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project   1957 Mack B61T Restoration Project - Page 2 EmptyDecember 21st 2010, 9:33 pm

1993GMCSierra wrote:
Seat looks comfy.



Bet the last driver was a real hardass.

I loled

Can't wait to see some progress.
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